From Pillar to Killer
From Pillar to Killer
Virtue. Vice. Violence.
Hosted by Whitney Curtis, a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA) with a passion for understanding human behavior, From Pillar to Killer explores the chilling stories of serial killers and murderers who were once viewed as respected, trusted, and admired members of their communities.
These aren't just stories about crime, they're stories about deception, duality, and the unsettling reality that some of history's most notorious killers hid in plain sight. From business owners and community leaders to church members, volunteers, and family men, each episode examines how individuals who appeared to embody virtue ultimately descended into vice and violence.
Through a combination of true crime storytelling and behavioral insight, Whitney explores the backgrounds, behaviors, warning signs, and life histories that may have contributed to these offenders' actions, all while asking the question that fascinates true crime enthusiasts and behavior analysts alike:
How does someone go from pillar of the community to killer?
Join us as we uncover the stories behind the masks, the crimes behind the reputations, and the human behavior behind the headlines.
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Episodes
Sunday Jun 14, 2026
Sunday Jun 14, 2026
In this episode of From Pillar to Killer, Whitney examines one of America's most notorious serial killers through a different lens, not just the crimes, but the behavior behind them.
Dennis Rader, better known as BTK (Bind, Torture, Kill), spent decades hiding in plain sight. He was a military veteran, husband, father, church council president, Cub Scout leader, and respected member of his Wichita, Kansas community. Behind that carefully constructed public image, however, was a man responsible for at least ten murders spanning nearly two decades.
Rather than focusing solely on the murders themselves, this episode explores the behavioral patterns that may have maintained BTK's actions over time. Drawing from behavioral science, FBI investigative records, and research on serial homicide "cooling-off periods," Whitney discusses:
How fantasy, rehearsal, and stalking behaviors may have preceded the murders
Why BTK referred to victims as "projects"
The role of power, control, fear, and recognition as possible reinforcers
The significance of trophies and mementos found in Rader's "Mother Lode"
Why BTK's communication with the media may have functioned similarly to the murders themselves
What may explain his lengthy gaps between killings
How attention and publicity may have contributed to his re-emergence in 2004
The behavioral patterns that ultimately led to his capture
This episode is not intended to excuse or justify Dennis Rader's actions. Instead, it examines the question at the heart of behavioral science:
Why did the behavior occur, and what consequences may have maintained it over time?
Listener Discretion Advised
This episode contains discussion of homicide, violence, sexual violence, stalking, and crimes against children. Listener discretion is strongly advised.
Sources & Further Reading
FBI BTK Investigation Records
Cooling-off Periods and Serial Homicide: A Case Study Approach to Analysing Behaviour Between Murders
Rader, Dennis. Court Confession and Sentencing Records
Rawson, Kerri. A Serial Killer's Daughter: My Story of Faith, Love, and Overcoming
Contemporary reporting from the Wichita Eagle and other Kansas media outlets
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Virtue. Vice. Violence.
Sunday Jun 07, 2026
Sunday Jun 07, 2026
In this inaugural episode of From Pillar to Killer, I examine one of the most notorious serial killers in American history: John Wayne Gacy.
Known to neighbors as a successful businessman, community volunteer, political activist, and children's entertainer, Gacy cultivated the image of a trusted pillar of his community. Behind that carefully constructed reputation, however, he was responsible for the murders of 33 young men and boys.
Through the lens of behavior analysis, this episode explores the patterns that defined Gacy's crimes, from his use of manipulation and the infamous "handcuff trick" to the behavioral chains, reinforcement histories, and missed opportunities for intervention that allowed his violence to escalate over time. Rather than focusing solely on the crimes themselves, I will examine the warning signs, environmental variables, and behavioral patterns that often go unnoticed until it's too late.
Most importantly, this episode remembers the victims, particularly Robert Piest, whose disappearance ultimately led investigators to uncover one of the largest serial murder cases in American history.
Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of child abuse, sexual assault, torture, murder, and crimes against minors.
Virtue. Vice. Violence.
"The real story doesn't belong to John Wayne Gacy. It belongs to his victims."
Research & Sources:
Defending a Monster by Sam Amirante and Danny Broderick
Encyclopaedia Britannica: John Wayne Gacy
EBSCO Research Starters: John Wayne Gacy
A&E: John Wayne Gacy's Childhood
A&E: John Wayne Gacy's Capture and the Robert Piest Investigation
TIME Magazine: The Real Serial Killer Who Inspired Devil in Disguise
Wikipedia: John Wayne Gacy
Tuesday Jun 02, 2026
Tuesday Jun 02, 2026
Before we dive into serial killers, cult leaders, and pillars of the community who became predators, meet your host. Whitney is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst, clinic owner, and lifelong true crime enthusiast. In this introductory episode, she explains why she's fascinated by the question of why people do what they do and how the science of behavior can offer a unique lens through which to examine some of history's most disturbing crimes.